Bishop Larry Gaiters and Carl Crew join this episode of Conversations with Jeff to discuss secret societies and what we really know about them. This is a deep dive into the topic. Often times Christians can avoid this topic because it comes off as conspiratorial, but this discussion is rooted in history, fact and extensive research. Some of the questions that are answered in this podcast are: Do secret societies run the world? What’s their end game? Was America founded as a Christian nation or by secret societies? Is Out of Shadows a legit documentary? Is Hollywood run by a secret society?